1 00:00:00,580 --> 00:00:06,230 [Music] 2 00:00:10,709 --> 00:00:08,710 welcome to watch this space i'm nasa 3 00:00:12,310 --> 00:00:10,719 administrator jim bridenstine and today 4 00:00:14,230 --> 00:00:12,320 we're going to be talking about a new 5 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:14,240 program in fact 6 00:00:19,189 --> 00:00:16,560 a program that nasa is very proud of we 7 00:00:21,750 --> 00:00:19,199 are on the brink of launching american 8 00:00:24,470 --> 00:00:21,760 astronauts on american rockets from 9 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:24,480 american soil for the first time since 10 00:00:29,109 --> 00:00:26,800 2011 the retirements of the space 11 00:00:30,390 --> 00:00:29,119 shuttles and so this is an exciting time 12 00:00:32,389 --> 00:00:30,400 we have two 13 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:32,399 providers for this new capability we 14 00:00:37,590 --> 00:00:35,040 call it commercial crew the idea being 15 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:37,600 that nasa is not purchasing owning and 16 00:00:42,549 --> 00:00:40,079 operating its own rockets this time in 17 00:00:45,190 --> 00:00:42,559 fact we're going to buy access to space 18 00:00:48,069 --> 00:00:45,200 in a way that we've never done it before 19 00:00:51,350 --> 00:00:48,079 we helped two partners namely boeing and 20 00:00:54,069 --> 00:00:51,360 spacex develop capability to fly our 21 00:00:56,950 --> 00:00:54,079 astronauts into space with the hopes 22 00:00:58,389 --> 00:00:56,960 that nasa could become one customer of 23 00:01:01,670 --> 00:00:58,399 many customers 24 00:01:03,670 --> 00:01:01,680 driving down our cost of access to space 25 00:01:06,550 --> 00:01:03,680 and having multiple providers and those 26 00:01:09,350 --> 00:01:06,560 providers competing on both innovation 27 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:09,360 and cost again giving nasa more 28 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:11,360 opportunity to do more things than we've 29 00:01:14,630 --> 00:01:13,760 ever been able to do before and here we 30 00:01:17,190 --> 00:01:14,640 are 31 00:01:19,030 --> 00:01:17,200 about a year away from sending our first 32 00:01:21,910 --> 00:01:19,040 astronauts to the international space 33 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:21,920 station on our commercial crew partners 34 00:01:26,469 --> 00:01:24,720 so this is an exciting time for nasa 35 00:01:29,749 --> 00:01:26,479 and we are here today with some very 36 00:01:33,590 --> 00:01:29,759 special guests in fact these are some of 37 00:01:36,469 --> 00:01:33,600 our first pilots on the boeing starliner 38 00:01:38,870 --> 00:01:36,479 which is a spacecraft that nasa helped 39 00:01:40,390 --> 00:01:38,880 develop that ultimately we'll be taking 40 00:01:42,550 --> 00:01:40,400 our american astronauts to the 41 00:01:44,950 --> 00:01:42,560 international space station so with us 42 00:01:47,190 --> 00:01:44,960 we have chris ferguson who is a 43 00:01:48,550 --> 00:01:47,200 not only a nasa astronaut but he's a 44 00:01:51,350 --> 00:01:48,560 shuttle commander 45 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:51,360 by trade and in fact he flew uh the last 46 00:01:56,310 --> 00:01:54,000 space shuttle that that we had 47 00:01:58,789 --> 00:01:56,320 fly the space shuttle atlantis back in 48 00:02:00,709 --> 00:01:58,799 2011. and of course we also have sunny 49 00:02:02,230 --> 00:02:00,719 williams who has done a number of 50 00:02:04,870 --> 00:02:02,240 missions to the international space 51 00:02:07,910 --> 00:02:04,880 station she's a navy pilot by trade as 52 00:02:09,749 --> 00:02:07,920 they they are both navy pilots by trade 53 00:02:11,350 --> 00:02:09,759 and in fact they are both from the test 54 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:11,360 community so we're very excited to have 55 00:02:15,589 --> 00:02:13,520 you both here and and i'll start with 56 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:15,599 you chris tell me 57 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:17,760 you have been announced as 58 00:02:23,270 --> 00:02:20,400 one of the crews for our first flights 59 00:02:24,869 --> 00:02:23,280 of the boeing starliner commercial crew 60 00:02:26,710 --> 00:02:24,879 spacecraft 61 00:02:28,390 --> 00:02:26,720 you were involved in the development of 62 00:02:30,229 --> 00:02:28,400 this capability 63 00:02:32,390 --> 00:02:30,239 tell me what have you been doing since 64 00:02:35,030 --> 00:02:32,400 you've been announced as a crew member 65 00:02:37,509 --> 00:02:35,040 well my my life has changed slightly 66 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:37,519 i've been involved as you probably know 67 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:40,000 since 2012 in in constructing this 68 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:42,000 shortly after i left nasa uh boeing 69 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:43,760 brought me on to help uh finish the 70 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:44,800 design 71 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:46,800 and and take the the starliner all the 72 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:49,360 way uh to fruition and ultimately into 73 00:02:53,350 --> 00:02:51,680 space so uh but in the last couple 74 00:02:55,589 --> 00:02:53,360 months uh since i knew i was going to be 75 00:02:58,229 --> 00:02:55,599 a part of this mission uh my 76 00:03:00,229 --> 00:02:58,239 uh my trajectory has changed a little 77 00:03:02,630 --> 00:03:00,239 bit i'm a lot more into training and 78 00:03:04,630 --> 00:03:02,640 what it's going to take to get sunny and 79 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:04,640 the rest of the boeing team up to speed 80 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:06,640 on how the software works how the crew 81 00:03:10,149 --> 00:03:08,640 interface works how we're going to live 82 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:10,159 and work in space 83 00:03:12,790 --> 00:03:11,599 it's a it's a brand new vehicle the 84 00:03:14,470 --> 00:03:12,800 first time we've done this it's the 85 00:03:16,869 --> 00:03:14,480 first time we've really brought a new 86 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:16,879 human-rated spacecraft to launch from 87 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:20,080 u.s soil online in almost 35 years so 88 00:03:23,350 --> 00:03:22,000 it's an exciting time for us and it's 89 00:03:25,270 --> 00:03:23,360 great to be back into crew training 90 00:03:27,270 --> 00:03:25,280 again i mean there is nothing better 91 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:27,280 than training with a group of people who 92 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:29,760 are like-minded and love spacecraft so 93 00:03:36,229 --> 00:03:32,560 tell me this uh each of you have 94 00:03:40,149 --> 00:03:38,229 yet yours says boeing 95 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:40,159 it doesn't say nasa tell me about that 96 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:41,280 why is that 97 00:03:44,949 --> 00:03:43,200 so this is this is going to be a first 98 00:03:46,949 --> 00:03:44,959 as you had mentioned 99 00:03:49,589 --> 00:03:46,959 when when when this is all complete and 100 00:03:52,149 --> 00:03:49,599 nasa purchases services to go back and 101 00:03:53,910 --> 00:03:52,159 forth to low earth orbit the partner the 102 00:03:56,229 --> 00:03:53,920 partner companies that mentioned spacex 103 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:56,239 and boeing will all own the intellectual 104 00:03:59,990 --> 00:03:57,760 property that it took to develop this 105 00:04:00,949 --> 00:04:00,000 capability with the idea of marketing it 106 00:04:02,070 --> 00:04:00,959 elsewhere 107 00:04:04,229 --> 00:04:02,080 so 108 00:04:06,149 --> 00:04:04,239 if you had to extrapolate this this 109 00:04:07,670 --> 00:04:06,159 could perhaps be the beginning of a 110 00:04:09,509 --> 00:04:07,680 space line 111 00:04:11,990 --> 00:04:09,519 boeing builds many airplanes that they 112 00:04:13,350 --> 00:04:12,000 supply to airlines now we look at a 113 00:04:15,830 --> 00:04:13,360 potential business where we build 114 00:04:17,749 --> 00:04:15,840 spacecraft to provide a transportation 115 00:04:19,909 --> 00:04:17,759 service to low earth orbit for 116 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:19,919 businesses for perhaps other countries 117 00:04:22,390 --> 00:04:21,359 that are interested in a program of 118 00:04:24,150 --> 00:04:22,400 their own 119 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:24,160 for tourism is always an option in 120 00:04:28,390 --> 00:04:25,680 addition of course to the prime nasa 121 00:04:30,550 --> 00:04:28,400 customer awesome and sonny tell me about 122 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:30,560 your a day in the life of sunny since 123 00:04:33,990 --> 00:04:32,160 you've been selected as a commercial 124 00:04:35,830 --> 00:04:34,000 crew partner yeah it's been a little bit 125 00:04:37,030 --> 00:04:35,840 crazy but fun i have to say that 126 00:04:39,430 --> 00:04:37,040 anything you're doing in the space 127 00:04:40,629 --> 00:04:39,440 business is fun um previously there was 128 00:04:43,110 --> 00:04:40,639 four of us who were selected for the 129 00:04:44,870 --> 00:04:43,120 commercial cadre nasa astronauts and we 130 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:44,880 divided our time between both companies 131 00:04:48,469 --> 00:04:46,880 spacex and boeing and now since the 132 00:04:50,230 --> 00:04:48,479 announcement two of us have come over to 133 00:04:53,189 --> 00:04:50,240 the boeing side and the other two to the 134 00:04:54,550 --> 00:04:53,199 spacex side so we've got to focus our 135 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:54,560 training and attention on this 136 00:04:59,030 --> 00:04:56,639 spacecraft and not only this training 137 00:05:00,230 --> 00:04:59,040 chris is um underestimating the other 138 00:05:01,990 --> 00:05:00,240 amount of things that we're doing we're 139 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:02,000 also doing a lot of testing sort of like 140 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:03,120 he was mentioning this is a new 141 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:04,639 spacecraft so there's still a lot of 142 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:07,440 things um to look at inside the cockpit 143 00:05:10,629 --> 00:05:09,039 and how people live in there and how 144 00:05:12,150 --> 00:05:10,639 actually we're going to operate it 145 00:05:14,469 --> 00:05:12,160 that's the next step after the 146 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:14,479 development so a day in the life of 147 00:05:19,990 --> 00:05:17,440 might be um to get back to your question 148 00:05:22,150 --> 00:05:20,000 is maybe going to the the simulator and 149 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:22,160 um trying out some manual piloting 150 00:05:25,749 --> 00:05:23,520 techniques which you might get a chance 151 00:05:27,350 --> 00:05:25,759 to try in here uh or talking through the 152 00:05:28,790 --> 00:05:27,360 procedures and you're telling me in a 153 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:28,800 few minutes we might be able to jump in 154 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:31,280 this thing and uh and give it a whirl 155 00:05:35,830 --> 00:05:34,479 i look forward to doing that yes 156 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:35,840 you know what it's like 157 00:05:40,629 --> 00:05:38,479 so some of that or maybe it's going into 158 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:40,639 the the static simulator that we have in 159 00:05:45,189 --> 00:05:42,720 building 9 and looking at how the 160 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:45,199 cockpit is laid out how the seats are 161 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:46,800 fitted how the hatch is going to open 162 00:05:49,590 --> 00:05:48,400 where you're going to position some of 163 00:05:51,270 --> 00:05:49,600 your stuff 164 00:05:52,710 --> 00:05:51,280 that you stuff you're going to take or 165 00:05:53,990 --> 00:05:52,720 stuff that you might have to change out 166 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:54,000 like 167 00:05:57,430 --> 00:05:56,240 carbon dioxide removal so there's a 168 00:05:59,749 --> 00:05:57,440 there's a ton of things that we have to 169 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:59,759 do and we get to do another thing we get 170 00:06:03,110 --> 00:06:01,280 to do sometimes is go down to kennedy 171 00:06:05,029 --> 00:06:03,120 space center you know the launch pad is 172 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:05,039 there and so we work with the folks that 173 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:06,479 are working on the launch pad and the 174 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:08,960 crew access arm and the emergency escape 175 00:06:13,189 --> 00:06:11,440 system so it's a abundance of a lot of 176 00:06:15,830 --> 00:06:13,199 fun things to do so it's it's pretty 177 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:15,840 crazy but a lot of fun so uh you have 178 00:06:20,629 --> 00:06:18,000 both been involved in the development of 179 00:06:22,309 --> 00:06:20,639 the starliner is that correct at some 180 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:22,319 level and um 181 00:06:26,629 --> 00:06:24,400 how is it i mean obviously you guys are 182 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:26,639 both experienced with with space shuttle 183 00:06:30,469 --> 00:06:29,520 flights uh and of course soyuz flights 184 00:06:32,070 --> 00:06:30,479 as well 185 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:32,080 how is this let's just start with the 186 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:33,520 space shuttle how is this different than 187 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:35,520 the space shuttle and why is it designed 188 00:06:39,510 --> 00:06:36,880 so differently chris we'll start with 189 00:06:42,070 --> 00:06:39,520 you so it's a it's a simpler mission um 190 00:06:45,430 --> 00:06:42,080 the space shuttle was uh 14 to 16 days 191 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:45,440 in space it was like camping really 192 00:06:49,510 --> 00:06:47,440 and it had all the outside the comforts 193 00:06:51,589 --> 00:06:49,520 of home uh this is really sort of a 194 00:06:53,430 --> 00:06:51,599 point mission so we'll launch and dock 195 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:53,440 with the space station within about 24 196 00:06:58,710 --> 00:06:56,080 hours so uh the sort of the home 197 00:07:01,350 --> 00:06:58,720 creature comforts are really not a part 198 00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:01,360 of the mission um so we'll dock 199 00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:03,599 within 24 hours of launching will stay 200 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:05,919 docked to provide a capability for the 201 00:07:09,589 --> 00:07:07,440 crew to come home quickly if they need 202 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:09,599 to and then after the the crew's 203 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:11,440 increment mission is over uh we'll bring 204 00:07:16,469 --> 00:07:13,599 them back and be on the ground within 205 00:07:18,710 --> 00:07:16,479 about six hours so we like the space 206 00:07:20,629 --> 00:07:18,720 shuttle do land on land uh however we 207 00:07:22,629 --> 00:07:20,639 don't do it on wheels we actually have 208 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:22,639 parachutes and we have airbags to 209 00:07:26,950 --> 00:07:24,240 cushion the final landing and we'll land 210 00:07:28,710 --> 00:07:26,960 in one of five uh selected landing sites 211 00:07:29,990 --> 00:07:28,720 in the western united states 212 00:07:31,510 --> 00:07:30,000 sunny do you have anything to add about 213 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:31,520 how it's different than your space 214 00:07:34,950 --> 00:07:33,440 shuttle flights well chris mentioned how 215 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:34,960 it is different from shuttle but it's 216 00:07:38,629 --> 00:07:36,800 actually very similar to soyuz in its 217 00:07:39,990 --> 00:07:38,639 mission and what it's supposed to do so 218 00:07:41,589 --> 00:07:40,000 while it's docked to the space station 219 00:07:43,749 --> 00:07:41,599 over that six months time it's also a 220 00:07:45,749 --> 00:07:43,759 lifeboat so the vehicle needs to be 221 00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:45,759 capable to be in space for that long 222 00:07:49,029 --> 00:07:47,520 where whereas the shuttle was only a 223 00:07:50,950 --> 00:07:49,039 couple weeks this is going to be six 224 00:07:52,309 --> 00:07:50,960 months onboard the space station in case 225 00:07:53,830 --> 00:07:52,319 there's any problems while the folks are 226 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:53,840 living up there they can jump into the 227 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:55,680 spacecraft and make their way back to 228 00:08:00,150 --> 00:07:58,000 earth and that's a that's a really 229 00:08:01,589 --> 00:08:00,160 needed capability for sustaining people 230 00:08:03,510 --> 00:08:01,599 living on this international space 231 00:08:04,790 --> 00:08:03,520 station it's like the soyuz in its 232 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:04,800 mission it's a lot different from the 233 00:08:09,350 --> 00:08:07,120 soyuz on the inside of it the soyuz you 234 00:08:11,510 --> 00:08:09,360 know is a heritage vehicle from the 235 00:08:13,189 --> 00:08:11,520 1960s has a lot of upgrades in the 236 00:08:14,629 --> 00:08:13,199 number of years but it's still 237 00:08:16,629 --> 00:08:14,639 maintained that shape 238 00:08:18,710 --> 00:08:16,639 this is a brand new spacecraft design 239 00:08:20,950 --> 00:08:18,720 brand new with new technologies and new 240 00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:20,960 manufacturing techniques to put this and 241 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:22,960 its rocket together and so it's it's a 242 00:08:26,629 --> 00:08:24,720 big step in technology so it's gonna 243 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:26,639 it's it's more capable 244 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:28,400 and it's it's gonna be a little nicer to 245 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:31,599 fly i think so when um 246 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:34,000 when these spacecraft are certified the 247 00:08:37,829 --> 00:08:36,240 starliner is fully certified 248 00:08:40,949 --> 00:08:37,839 how many 249 00:08:43,029 --> 00:08:40,959 astronauts and or passengers 250 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:43,039 would a starliner be able to carry to 251 00:08:47,829 --> 00:08:44,959 the international space station 252 00:08:49,990 --> 00:08:47,839 so right now we can accommodate five 253 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:50,000 nasa's requirement what they've asked us 254 00:08:52,710 --> 00:08:51,360 for is four 255 00:08:54,150 --> 00:08:52,720 so we can 256 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:54,160 order and trade on what you want to do 257 00:08:56,949 --> 00:08:55,120 with the fifth seat there's 258 00:08:59,430 --> 00:08:56,959 opportunities out there for like i said 259 00:09:01,190 --> 00:08:59,440 tourism or perhaps business uh if need 260 00:09:03,269 --> 00:09:01,200 be we have actually we built it 261 00:09:05,350 --> 00:09:03,279 originally to accommodate seven and with 262 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:05,360 uh some minor modifications we could 263 00:09:09,269 --> 00:09:07,200 carry up to seven it really depends on 264 00:09:10,710 --> 00:09:09,279 the destination right now we have one 265 00:09:12,630 --> 00:09:10,720 destination up there the international 266 00:09:14,870 --> 00:09:12,640 space station which is a vibrant and 267 00:09:16,310 --> 00:09:14,880 living place uh we'd really like to see 268 00:09:18,150 --> 00:09:16,320 other destinations in low earth orbit 269 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:18,160 however perhaps commercial manufacturing 270 00:09:21,829 --> 00:09:20,320 facilities to give us other places to go 271 00:09:24,710 --> 00:09:21,839 absolutely and of course that's a big 272 00:09:26,949 --> 00:09:24,720 piece of why we're doing commercial crew 273 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:26,959 we want to see in general low earth 274 00:09:31,750 --> 00:09:29,360 orbit be commercialized in a way that 275 00:09:34,310 --> 00:09:31,760 enables nasa to use its resources 276 00:09:36,550 --> 00:09:34,320 enables nasa to use taxpayer resources 277 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:36,560 to do things in environments for you 278 00:09:40,150 --> 00:09:38,160 know for which there is not yet a 279 00:09:42,470 --> 00:09:40,160 commercial capability right so we want 280 00:09:44,949 --> 00:09:42,480 to use our assets to go to deep space go 281 00:09:46,949 --> 00:09:44,959 to the moon go to mars uh where there is 282 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:46,959 no commercial capability but in low 283 00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:49,600 earth orbit um you know if if we can get 284 00:09:54,630 --> 00:09:51,839 to a day where boeing can take 285 00:09:57,190 --> 00:09:54,640 passengers and that can help offset the 286 00:09:58,949 --> 00:09:57,200 costs and then not just passengers but 287 00:10:00,230 --> 00:09:58,959 also industry and there's things 288 00:10:02,310 --> 00:10:00,240 happening on the international space 289 00:10:03,829 --> 00:10:02,320 station right now that are amazing and 290 00:10:06,310 --> 00:10:03,839 if we can transition to commercial 291 00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:06,320 operations to to include the idea that 292 00:10:09,430 --> 00:10:07,440 we can use 293 00:10:12,150 --> 00:10:09,440 adult stem cells 294 00:10:14,069 --> 00:10:12,160 uh to create human organs 295 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:14,079 that can then be used to extend people's 296 00:10:16,949 --> 00:10:15,600 lives i mean that's a capability right 297 00:10:19,110 --> 00:10:16,959 now under development that could be 298 00:10:20,790 --> 00:10:19,120 absolutely game-changing 299 00:10:23,350 --> 00:10:20,800 for the microgravity environment which 300 00:10:25,190 --> 00:10:23,360 is only available in space 301 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:25,200 and if we can if we can commercialize 302 00:10:29,190 --> 00:10:27,600 that and so when we talk about taking 303 00:10:31,430 --> 00:10:29,200 passengers into space we're talking 304 00:10:32,550 --> 00:10:31,440 about taking folks that are scientists 305 00:10:35,190 --> 00:10:32,560 that are 306 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:35,200 maybe you know bio engineers people that 307 00:10:38,310 --> 00:10:36,880 can do things that are unique and never 308 00:10:39,910 --> 00:10:38,320 been done before 309 00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:39,920 to commercialize low earth orbit and 310 00:10:44,389 --> 00:10:42,560 then we can use nasa's resources to do 311 00:10:46,150 --> 00:10:44,399 things that you know commercial isn't 312 00:10:48,230 --> 00:10:46,160 ready for yet which is really an amazing 313 00:10:50,230 --> 00:10:48,240 capability and so we're very excited 314 00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:50,240 about what what boeing is doing and what 315 00:10:55,030 --> 00:10:52,720 starliner is and of course what spacex 316 00:10:58,230 --> 00:10:55,040 is doing with the dragon as well just so 317 00:11:00,069 --> 00:10:58,240 many so many opportunities sunny you uh 318 00:11:01,750 --> 00:11:00,079 tell me how long you've you've spent a 319 00:11:03,350 --> 00:11:01,760 lot of time in space 320 00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:03,360 how much time have you spent in space a 321 00:11:09,509 --> 00:11:06,000 little over 320 days a little over 320 322 00:11:11,509 --> 00:11:09,519 days so this time when you go back 323 00:11:13,350 --> 00:11:11,519 how long are you planning to stay 324 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:13,360 um probably six months another six 325 00:11:16,310 --> 00:11:14,800 months yeah six months and i hope we get 326 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:16,320 to fill up the other two seats with some 327 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:18,000 of our international partners so sort of 328 00:11:21,509 --> 00:11:19,680 like you were talking about and fill out 329 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:21,519 the compliment to make us seven people 330 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:22,800 on the international space station like 331 00:11:26,790 --> 00:11:24,800 it was designed for that's amazing get a 332 00:11:29,030 --> 00:11:26,800 lot of work done so when you when you 333 00:11:30,790 --> 00:11:29,040 think about your time that you've spent 334 00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:30,800 in space which is an amazing amount of 335 00:11:34,310 --> 00:11:31,680 time 336 00:11:36,150 --> 00:11:34,320 different 337 00:11:38,389 --> 00:11:36,160 um well like you mentioned right the 338 00:11:40,550 --> 00:11:38,399 international space station is complete 339 00:11:41,590 --> 00:11:40,560 and my last mission it was as well but 340 00:11:43,509 --> 00:11:41,600 this will 341 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:43,519 be an additional person to be up there 342 00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:44,880 to be working and doing some of the 343 00:11:49,110 --> 00:11:47,200 science that we've been uh that that 344 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:49,120 station is capable of and i think we're 345 00:11:53,670 --> 00:11:50,720 going to be able to deliver a whole 346 00:11:55,030 --> 00:11:53,680 bunch more stuff um science back to to 347 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:55,040 earth so i think that's going to be 348 00:11:59,350 --> 00:11:57,360 different and this of course the major 349 00:12:00,870 --> 00:11:59,360 part is the the vehicle that's taken me 350 00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:00,880 up and taken me back is going to be 351 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:03,040 different um it will be docked at a 352 00:12:06,629 --> 00:12:04,880 different docking port and the space 353 00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:06,639 station has four docking ports in the 354 00:12:10,389 --> 00:12:08,480 aft and for the russian vehicles and 355 00:12:11,910 --> 00:12:10,399 we'll have two docking ports in the in 356 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:11,920 the forward and for manned vehicles and 357 00:12:15,829 --> 00:12:13,360 then two docking ports for cargo 358 00:12:17,829 --> 00:12:15,839 vehicles also in the forward end so it's 359 00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:17,839 a busy busy space station and it's going 360 00:12:20,949 --> 00:12:19,200 to get more busy with all of these 361 00:12:23,910 --> 00:12:20,959 vehicles so it's going to be exciting 362 00:12:26,710 --> 00:12:23,920 and exciting time so uh so sonny you you 363 00:12:30,470 --> 00:12:26,720 have had the experience of 364 00:12:31,910 --> 00:12:30,480 landing in a capsule on land before 365 00:12:33,269 --> 00:12:31,920 and now you're gonna do it again and 366 00:12:35,670 --> 00:12:33,279 chris this will be new to you because 367 00:12:37,990 --> 00:12:35,680 you've always landed on wheels 368 00:12:39,590 --> 00:12:38,000 which of course was very very nice but 369 00:12:41,350 --> 00:12:39,600 in this particular case 370 00:12:44,629 --> 00:12:41,360 you're you're gonna both are you're 371 00:12:47,430 --> 00:12:44,639 gonna land on land without wheels um 372 00:12:49,110 --> 00:12:47,440 don't be afraid yeah still it'll work 373 00:12:51,829 --> 00:12:49,120 share with me what what is the 374 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:51,839 experience like uh and and uh what is 375 00:12:56,710 --> 00:12:54,480 the process yeah so um i could talk to 376 00:12:57,750 --> 00:12:56,720 soyuz i can sort of talk to starliner 377 00:12:59,350 --> 00:12:57,760 maybe i'll let chris talk a little bit 378 00:13:01,190 --> 00:12:59,360 more about it but it's a bunch of 379 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:01,200 controlled explosions as you're coming 380 00:13:05,190 --> 00:13:03,760 back into earth orbit and then landing 381 00:13:06,949 --> 00:13:05,200 um of course you have to slow down a 382 00:13:08,629 --> 00:13:06,959 little bit so the vehicle will turn 383 00:13:10,710 --> 00:13:08,639 itself so it can slow down and start 384 00:13:12,710 --> 00:13:10,720 entering the atmosphere 385 00:13:14,310 --> 00:13:12,720 after that um 386 00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:14,320 or before depends on the vehicle you're 387 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:15,760 going to get rid of parts of the 388 00:13:19,350 --> 00:13:17,360 spacecraft because you want the the 389 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:19,360 descent module to be the the key place 390 00:13:22,949 --> 00:13:21,040 that's carrying you and holding you and 391 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:22,959 bringing you back safe and so the 392 00:13:26,310 --> 00:13:24,880 explosions in the soyuz go on above you 393 00:13:28,230 --> 00:13:26,320 and below you and you can feel it you 394 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:28,240 can hear it it's pretty dynamic you're 395 00:13:31,030 --> 00:13:29,519 happy when it happens because that's 396 00:13:32,230 --> 00:13:31,040 what's supposed to happen 397 00:13:33,670 --> 00:13:32,240 the next thing 398 00:13:35,990 --> 00:13:33,680 we have a nice big window in this 399 00:13:38,389 --> 00:13:36,000 vehicle also we had a couple windows in 400 00:13:39,829 --> 00:13:38,399 the soyuz you can see the plasma right 401 00:13:41,350 --> 00:13:39,839 next to your head in the soyuz when 402 00:13:43,110 --> 00:13:41,360 you're on the left seat it's right here 403 00:13:44,870 --> 00:13:43,120 and it's pretty shocking to see it's 404 00:13:46,790 --> 00:13:44,880 only a couple inches away from your head 405 00:13:48,310 --> 00:13:46,800 but we have trust in these spacecraft 406 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:48,320 this one will be the same and we will 407 00:13:51,910 --> 00:13:49,600 probably be able to see it from in the 408 00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:51,920 big window here and then as you finally 409 00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:53,600 as you slow down then the parachute 410 00:13:56,310 --> 00:13:54,880 opens up 411 00:13:58,230 --> 00:13:56,320 for starlander there's a couple other 412 00:14:00,550 --> 00:13:58,240 little explosions too to make sure that 413 00:14:03,189 --> 00:14:00,560 the parachute cover is off and then the 414 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:03,199 parachute can come out and you are in 415 00:14:07,030 --> 00:14:05,040 this capsule at the end of the parachute 416 00:14:09,269 --> 00:14:07,040 and of course it's ripping out just like 417 00:14:11,110 --> 00:14:09,279 a normal parachute would and that tends 418 00:14:13,030 --> 00:14:11,120 to make the vehicle move around quite a 419 00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:13,040 bit so you're nice and tight in your 420 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:14,800 seat as you're coming in you're getting 421 00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:16,240 feeling gravity you want to pull your 422 00:14:19,269 --> 00:14:17,279 straps pretty good because you're going 423 00:14:20,629 --> 00:14:19,279 to be bouncing around quite a bit just 424 00:14:22,150 --> 00:14:20,639 on the parachute and then once it 425 00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:22,160 settles down 426 00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:23,839 don't stick your tooth your tongue out 427 00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:24,800 between your teeth because you're going 428 00:14:28,710 --> 00:14:26,880 to be ready for that that landing and 429 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:28,720 the landing for starliner is going to be 430 00:14:31,910 --> 00:14:30,880 on some airbags on the russian vehicle 431 00:14:33,910 --> 00:14:31,920 there's a couple different things that 432 00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:33,920 they did the seat stroked and then there 433 00:14:37,189 --> 00:14:35,600 were soft landing jets that fired right 434 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:37,199 before landing here we'll have the 435 00:14:40,629 --> 00:14:39,360 airbags come open and then we'll know 436 00:14:42,389 --> 00:14:40,639 we're pretty close to the ground get 437 00:14:44,230 --> 00:14:42,399 ready just sort of get in your seat and 438 00:14:45,910 --> 00:14:44,240 huddle down get ready so when i watch 439 00:14:48,949 --> 00:14:45,920 we'll be okay 440 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:48,959 when i watch a soyuz capsule return 441 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:51,760 uh that last burst that last rocket fire 442 00:14:57,189 --> 00:14:53,760 right before it touches down 443 00:14:58,790 --> 00:14:57,199 um i've seen it start fires oh yeah 444 00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:58,800 and of course if if you're not used to 445 00:15:02,230 --> 00:15:00,560 seeing it it's pretty startling you 446 00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:02,240 think something went wrong but in in 447 00:15:06,230 --> 00:15:04,720 fact it's it's supposed to happen right 448 00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:06,240 in this particular case there's going to 449 00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:09,760 be airbags rather than a rocket burst is 450 00:15:13,430 --> 00:15:10,720 that right 451 00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:13,440 so the idea of starting a fire goes down 452 00:15:17,430 --> 00:15:15,360 i hope so so if we see a fire now 453 00:15:19,509 --> 00:15:17,440 something's been something's gone wrong 454 00:15:21,910 --> 00:15:19,519 we always all of our landing sites are 455 00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:21,920 dry lake beds so there's very little to 456 00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:22,720 burn 457 00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:24,720 but at the same time you had mentioned 458 00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:25,440 air 459 00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:27,839 uh what we do at about 3000 feet off the 460 00:15:31,590 --> 00:15:29,839 ground is we jettison the heat shield 461 00:15:33,430 --> 00:15:31,600 that just protected us from the heat of 462 00:15:35,030 --> 00:15:33,440 reentry so hold on right there because 463 00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:35,040 she mentioned the plasma you were able 464 00:15:38,949 --> 00:15:36,880 to see the plasma when you talk about 465 00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:38,959 plasma you're talking about 466 00:15:43,269 --> 00:15:41,680 subatomic particles that have come off 467 00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:43,279 of that heat shield is that right which 468 00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:45,279 is ultimately what protects the 469 00:15:50,150 --> 00:15:48,000 astronauts inside so that they call it 470 00:15:51,509 --> 00:15:50,160 an ablative heat shield in other words 471 00:15:53,430 --> 00:15:51,519 the heat shield 472 00:15:55,509 --> 00:15:53,440 is not it's intended 473 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:55,519 um to not not come apart but it's 474 00:15:59,670 --> 00:15:57,600 intended to to shed 475 00:16:00,790 --> 00:15:59,680 to burn off its skin 476 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:00,800 and then that 477 00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:02,720 that skin ultimately protects you from 478 00:16:06,389 --> 00:16:04,720 heat and friction and ultimately 479 00:16:07,389 --> 00:16:06,399 crushing the capsule is that right right 480 00:16:09,749 --> 00:16:07,399 it's about 481 00:16:11,829 --> 00:16:09,759 2500 degrees give or take a couple 482 00:16:14,150 --> 00:16:11,839 hundred degrees but it it is you 483 00:16:16,069 --> 00:16:14,160 mentioned the plasma it is uh we have a 484 00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:16,079 a vehicle that's traveling about five 485 00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:18,720 miles per second and you literally slam 486 00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:20,480 into the atmosphere and when you do that 487 00:16:24,790 --> 00:16:22,560 you take those air molecules that were 488 00:16:27,430 --> 00:16:24,800 formerly things like nitrogen gas and 489 00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:27,440 oxygen and and you disassociate them and 490 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:29,040 you turn them into just 491 00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:31,040 it's plasma gas it's just sort of free 492 00:16:35,189 --> 00:16:33,040 atoms yeah and they they rapidly 493 00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:35,199 disassociate and they create heat that 494 00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:36,720 heat is carried away by the ablative 495 00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:38,959 heat shield and then they reassociate uh 496 00:16:42,470 --> 00:16:40,480 back over the vehicle it's really an 497 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:42,480 amazing process but you have you do have 498 00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:45,040 that thermal protection beneath you but 499 00:16:48,470 --> 00:16:46,720 once you get down below about a hundred 500 00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:48,480 thousand feet of altitude uh you won't 501 00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:50,800 need it anymore it's cool enough and as 502 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:52,320 i mentioned we'll eventually jettison 503 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:54,240 that heat shield to expose those airbags 504 00:16:57,430 --> 00:16:56,480 that will cushion our final landing so 505 00:16:59,430 --> 00:16:57,440 how do you 506 00:17:01,910 --> 00:16:59,440 when you say jettison is it is it uh 507 00:17:04,630 --> 00:17:01,920 burst off by rockets uh there's actually 508 00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:04,640 uh six explosive bolts so sonny had 509 00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:05,919 mentioned there's plenty of explosive 510 00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:08,079 devices that occur on the way down uh 511 00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:10,000 it's going to be a cacophony and it's 512 00:17:14,470 --> 00:17:12,079 going to sound like uh like a 513 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:14,480 you know the 1812 overture i'm sure for 514 00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:16,079 a period of time there 515 00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:18,079 but there are six bolts that hold both 516 00:17:22,870 --> 00:17:20,240 the service module the the bottom part 517 00:17:24,470 --> 00:17:22,880 that we need on orbit to the crew module 518 00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:24,480 we'll jettison that before we de-orbit 519 00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:26,079 and then finally there's six more bolts 520 00:17:30,070 --> 00:17:27,679 that will release the base heat shield 521 00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:30,080 as we get close to the ground awesome 522 00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:32,240 so um the other day i had the 523 00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:35,039 opportunity to to go out to huntsville 524 00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:37,679 and i was able to see the components for 525 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:39,280 the space launch system which of course 526 00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:41,200 is our deep space rocket 527 00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:43,520 um and i was fascinated and of course 528 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:45,520 both of you are involved in 529 00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:46,640 being a 530 00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:48,799 test for the united states navy 531 00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:51,600 i was fascinated with how the technology 532 00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:53,919 for avionics ultimately compares to that 533 00:17:58,070 --> 00:17:56,160 of an aircraft there's there's an 534 00:18:00,549 --> 00:17:58,080 inertial navigation system that's on 535 00:18:02,470 --> 00:18:00,559 board and it's constantly measuring 536 00:18:04,549 --> 00:18:02,480 tiny little movements and so your 537 00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:04,559 aircraft in this case in in this case 538 00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:07,120 your spacecraft or your rocket 539 00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:09,120 always knows where it is latitude 540 00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:11,760 longitude altitude yaw pitch roll 541 00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:14,720 trajectory velocity all of this data 542 00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:16,799 is being collected real time 543 00:18:21,029 --> 00:18:18,000 and then it and then your your 544 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:21,039 spacecraft or your rocket is comparing 545 00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:23,280 all of that data to where your rocket 546 00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:24,720 actually should be 547 00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:26,720 so if there is a difference in where it 548 00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:28,400 is and where it should be 549 00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:30,559 it then creates a solution to that 550 00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:31,679 difference 551 00:18:35,590 --> 00:18:33,520 and maneuvers the rocket nozzles to get 552 00:18:37,029 --> 00:18:35,600 the rocket headed the right direction or 553 00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:37,039 the spacecraft headed the right 554 00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:39,120 direction 555 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:42,640 and and seeing how it all relates to 556 00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:44,000 you know these are the same type of 557 00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:45,120 things when you think about what an 558 00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:47,039 autopilot is on an airplane 559 00:18:49,830 --> 00:18:48,480 it's all the same kind of technique 560 00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:49,840 you've got flight control computers 561 00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:51,679 there's redundancy built in 562 00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:54,320 so share with me and and really for the 563 00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:55,600 audience 564 00:18:59,669 --> 00:18:58,240 how has uh flying test 565 00:19:01,350 --> 00:18:59,679 in the navy 566 00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:01,360 ultimately prepared me for this when i 567 00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:03,280 was i'm a navy pilot by trade i'm not a 568 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:05,520 test pilot but a navy pilot by trade and 569 00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:07,919 i was astonished at how similar 570 00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:10,160 the technology is so so share with us 571 00:19:13,669 --> 00:19:12,080 you know your view on on how you were 572 00:19:15,510 --> 00:19:13,679 prepared and trained and 573 00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:15,520 you know how it relates so you know i 574 00:19:18,870 --> 00:19:16,799 think the first thing is to design a 575 00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:18,880 good test you know make sure that the 576 00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:20,559 the intent of the test accomplishes what 577 00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:21,840 you need and you know what a new 578 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:23,120 astronauts need in space they need a 579 00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:25,440 vehicle that's safe that holds the air 580 00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:27,280 that gets it from point a to point b 581 00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:29,360 that knows where it is all the time that 582 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:32,080 has a system of uh flight management and 583 00:19:35,669 --> 00:19:33,760 systems management computers that can 584 00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:35,679 help the pilot along the way 585 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:38,240 and and we mentioned sort of the the the 586 00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:39,840 comparison between older and newer 587 00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:42,160 spacecraft newer spacecraft are designed 588 00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:43,840 to be completely autonomous a matter of 589 00:19:48,789 --> 00:19:46,160 fact that is one of our requirements 590 00:19:50,710 --> 00:19:48,799 that we work to so the astronaut is 591 00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:50,720 really a systems monitor 592 00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:53,120 so it sort of has turned the test pilot 593 00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:55,039 role into more of a 594 00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:57,280 i i need to watch everything make sure 595 00:20:00,230 --> 00:19:58,640 it's doing what it's supposed to do and 596 00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:00,240 if i need to intervene i can but 597 00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:03,039 generally i don't anticipate doing so 598 00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:05,440 so i mentioned within 24 hours with very 599 00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:07,919 little pilot intervention uh we expect 600 00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:09,760 to see our vehicle dock and it can fly 601 00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:12,320 with a crew or without a crew 602 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:15,120 so test has changed quite a bit but you 603 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:16,559 know a lot of it's still the same is the 604 00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:18,960 vehicle safe does it sustain human life 605 00:20:21,909 --> 00:20:20,720 does it get me where i need to be you 606 00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:21,919 know does it does it give me the 607 00:20:26,549 --> 00:20:25,039 situational awareness i need so i know 608 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:26,559 where i am and i don't inadvertently 609 00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:29,200 take over manually so in this particular 610 00:20:32,149 --> 00:20:30,640 case we're gonna we're gonna get in the 611 00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:32,159 spacecraft here in a few minutes and 612 00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:34,400 we're gonna we're gonna fly it um are we 613 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:36,720 gonna dock it we are we're you're going 614 00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:38,080 to dock i'm going to dock you're going 615 00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:40,000 to doug now 616 00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:41,600 if we were to dock 617 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:44,080 in real life um would it be automated or 618 00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:46,080 would it be manually flown 619 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:48,720 uh yes we could do both the design is is 620 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:51,360 automation uh but you mentioned about 621 00:20:55,270 --> 00:20:53,200 guidance navigation and control do i 622 00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:55,280 know exactly where i am one of the what 623 00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,120 i always think is a miraculous thing of 624 00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:59,280 space flight is the ability of our 625 00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:00,559 sensors 626 00:21:05,029 --> 00:21:03,039 to take vehicles that are traveling five 627 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:05,039 miles per second relative to one another 628 00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:06,240 and when they bring them together at 629 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,320 docking they're traveling 630 00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:10,080 relative to one another of about two 631 00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:12,080 inches per second and that is all 632 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:14,080 through just a series of small orbital 633 00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:16,000 burns but we can bring it in for a 634 00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:17,360 manual approach which is what you're 635 00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:19,120 going to get to try here shortly or we 636 00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:21,039 can give it i'm sure i'll rock it we can 637 00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:22,799 give it to hal and let hal fly it i'm 638 00:21:26,310 --> 00:21:24,480 sure you'll rock it as well 639 00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:26,320 i would imagine as you guys go through 640 00:21:29,510 --> 00:21:28,080 training sonny 641 00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:29,520 while there is a lot of automation you 642 00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:31,440 you don't train for the automation you 643 00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:33,200 train for something else right and and 644 00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:35,360 part of that uh that whole getting the 645 00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:37,600 autopilot ready to work not only just 646 00:21:40,630 --> 00:21:39,200 flying but how the whole system works 647 00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:40,640 other sensors it's turning on other 648 00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:42,159 systems is turning on when it needs to 649 00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:45,200 turn on for heating cooling air 650 00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:47,200 carbon dioxide removal all of that we 651 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:48,559 have to ask the right questions to make 652 00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:50,000 sure that autopilot does the right 653 00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:51,760 things i think that's that's a big part 654 00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:54,640 of it and you know nasa came in a little 655 00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,880 while after boeing started designing the 656 00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:58,559 spacecraft and our role as the cadre i 657 00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:00,240 was mentioning beforehand was to come in 658 00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:01,760 and start asking all those questions so 659 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:03,679 how does it do this how does it do this 660 00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:05,280 and that the things that we would expect 661 00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:07,120 a spacecraft to do and you know some of 662 00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:08,480 these things in both companies are a 663 00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:09,679 little bit different than the way we've 664 00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:11,520 done them in the past and that's good 665 00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:12,799 because that means it's an advancement 666 00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:14,159 in technology 667 00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:16,080 but you know we all train for also the 668 00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:17,840 backup plan so when something doesn't 669 00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:19,679 work by the automation how do you 670 00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:20,960 recognize that chris mentioned 671 00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:22,640 situational awareness so make sure you 672 00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:24,240 have good situational awareness and know 673 00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:26,320 how to automatically take over um to 674 00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:27,840 keep the crew and the in the vehicle 675 00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:30,640 safe that's that's amazing now uh when 676 00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:32,799 we walked in here we walked through an 677 00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:34,559 area where there were people sitting at 678 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:35,760 computers 679 00:22:39,909 --> 00:22:37,440 and you mentioned that that this 680 00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:39,919 particular group of people were they 681 00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:42,640 they were by definition evil i think 682 00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,760 is the word that you use share with me 683 00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:47,679 tell me why that is what and i know 684 00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:49,520 you're just kidding but what what is 685 00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:51,039 that all about they are not evil they 686 00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,720 are wonderful people who are dedicated 687 00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:54,720 to the success of every space flight and 688 00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:56,799 uh you know astronauts may be the most 689 00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:58,480 visible part of the space program but 690 00:23:02,149 --> 00:23:00,640 really um you know to point a phrase 691 00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:02,159 we're standing on the shoulders of a lot 692 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:03,760 of people who really make this happen 693 00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:05,760 day in and day out and not the least of 694 00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:08,080 which is the mission operations team who 695 00:23:11,669 --> 00:23:09,679 actually plan the mission to make sure 696 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:11,679 we have all the consumables to execute 697 00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:14,080 it as the way we intend to the ones that 698 00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:15,520 train us to make sure that we know how 699 00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:17,919 to respond appropriately to uh to the 700 00:23:21,909 --> 00:23:20,480 malfunctions that occur and some of the 701 00:23:23,190 --> 00:23:21,919 veterans that you saw back there had 702 00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:23,200 been with us in the space shuttle 703 00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:25,039 program it's great to see them back for 704 00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:26,960 the you know phase two of you know 705 00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:28,320 what's human space flight going to look 706 00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:31,200 in the 2020s and um you know 707 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:32,400 and one of them i'll even mention my 708 00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:34,840 name susan crippen has just been 709 00:23:39,310 --> 00:23:37,200 fantastic she uh she taught space 710 00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:39,320 shuttle pilots how to fly 711 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:41,760 aborted missions in the space shuttle 712 00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:44,400 something we hoped we never had to do 713 00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:46,720 and and every time susan walked into a 714 00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:49,039 room and she's this diminutive wonderful 715 00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:52,159 person she made the most macho astronaut 716 00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:54,320 shutter because he knew he was in for a 717 00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:56,080 hard day yeah and she's working as a 718 00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:57,360 part of our team today and it's just 719 00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:59,360 great so what they do there in that room 720 00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:00,960 is they'll they'll start the simulation 721 00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:02,720 for us not only us but also mission 722 00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:04,640 control so it's a quiz sort of for us 723 00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:06,880 and them and they'll put in malfunctions 724 00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:08,960 like something broke up in space one of 725 00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:10,720 the boxes some of the computer something 726 00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:12,400 broke and we have to figure out how to 727 00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:14,320 handle that how to continue the mission 728 00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:16,559 whether or not we take it offline or try 729 00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:18,720 to put it back in the in the set 730 00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:20,960 we work with mission control and they 731 00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:23,360 analyze us and evaluate us and see how 732 00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:25,279 we do all together and we do this we'll 733 00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:27,279 do this a lot and right now it's in the 734 00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:29,120 in the infancy the growing process as 735 00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:30,559 we're actually learning how all the 736 00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:32,720 software works but once we figure that 737 00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:35,279 all out those guys will be coming up 738 00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:37,120 with evil scenarios that stick in there 739 00:24:40,149 --> 00:24:38,559 that will make it very hard but those 740 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:40,159 are those taxing scenarios that we all 741 00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:41,760 need to do so we understand the vehicle 742 00:24:45,909 --> 00:24:43,600 inside and out and to be prepared and to 743 00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:45,919 be prepared yep i uh a good friend of 744 00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,159 mine is another naval aviator john 745 00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:50,559 harrington uh first native american in 746 00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:52,559 space uh and of course from the great 747 00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:54,960 state of oklahoma which is my home 748 00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:56,799 so i used to run the tulsa air and space 749 00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:59,279 museum and uh he was very helpful to me 750 00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:01,200 in those in those days and 751 00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:02,960 one day he was talking to me about his 752 00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:05,279 his shuttle flight and and he said you 753 00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:06,640 know it was amazing because they had 754 00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:08,159 done all of this training for all of 755 00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:09,600 this time getting ready for the shuttle 756 00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,480 flight 757 00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,559 and then on the day of launch 758 00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:14,400 nothing went wrong 759 00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:16,159 and he said it was it was it was a 760 00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:18,240 little nerve-wracking because you expect 761 00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:19,840 something you got to be doing something 762 00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:21,039 you got to be busy and he said nothing 763 00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:23,760 went wrong which means that 764 00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:25,440 obviously you guys are well prepared 765 00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:26,960 you've got a great crew of course we've 766 00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:29,360 got amazing engineers and scientists 767 00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:31,360 that are making it all come together 768 00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:34,000 and we're just so proud of you we're so 769 00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:36,080 grateful for your willing to step up in 770 00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:38,480 this new capacity after all both of you 771 00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:41,120 and all of the others have already done 772 00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:42,720 and of course this represents a great 773 00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:44,799 capability for the united states a lot 774 00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:49,909 launch is now an export for the united 775 00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:52,240 states it was only about five years ago 776 00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:53,919 we didn't have really any launch 777 00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,000 capability and now not only do we have 778 00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,559 domestic launch capability we have 779 00:26:01,990 --> 00:26:00,480 launch capabilities that we export to 780 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:02,000 the rest of the world 781 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:03,840 which uh you know 782 00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:06,080 it offsets the trade balance for our 783 00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:07,279 country 784 00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:09,360 and a lot of it is because of our 785 00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,760 development with commercial resupply to 786 00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:13,679 the international space station and 787 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:15,760 getting those other customers on board 788 00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:17,760 for those specific rockets and 789 00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:20,159 spacecraft and and now we're going to go 790 00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:21,440 to the next step and it's not just 791 00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:23,600 resupply but it's commercial crew 792 00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:25,200 and uh and and 793 00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,039 and the two of you and so many others 794 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,200 are involved in making this really an 795 00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:31,440 amazing capability for our country and 796 00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:32,880 it's not just about science and 797 00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:34,480 technology it's about 798 00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:37,840 um the american economy and exports and 799 00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,919 making available space to more people 800 00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:41,520 than ever before 801 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:42,559 and that really is going to be 802 00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:44,880 transformative for all of humankind not 803 00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:46,240 just for the united states but for 804 00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:48,400 everybody so we're so grateful for you 805 00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:50,320 guys for for being here 806 00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:51,760 and i'm looking forward to getting in 807 00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:53,120 this simulator 808 00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:55,760 and uh seeing what it is and ultimately 809 00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:57,919 seeing if i can uh if i can dock with 810 00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:59,279 the international space station you 811 00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:00,960 won't have a problem you're ready ready 812 00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,360 to jump in ready to rock all right let's 813 00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:05,200 do it 814 00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:14,470 you see these things like dice in the 815 00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:16,960 picture yeah they're actually our key 816 00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:19,440 targets that our cameras are looking at 817 00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:21,039 and you can actually see there's a green 818 00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:23,679 line that's surrounding one of the 819 00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:26,000 one of the marks on the dust 820 00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,640 like that i feel like i'm afraid that 821 00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:30,480 oh you're doing good you're doing good 822 00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,880 should i slow down nope closure looks 823 00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:35,039 good you don't want to go too slow 824 00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:36,159 either coming in because you want to 825 00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:37,440 make sure that 826 00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:40,880 your contact you're good at 0.44 827 00:27:43,670 --> 00:27:43,120 about 3.2 meters 828 00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:43,680 thank you 829 00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:45,919 [Music] 830 00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:47,360 oh 831 00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:50,720 again that's just your circle getting 832 00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:57,029 give it a little time yeah just let it 833 00:28:02,870 --> 00:27:59,520 react when it comes coming back 834 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:02,880 closure still looks good there you go 835 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,830 about two meters now looking real good 836 00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:13,590 you're good you're good 837 00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:17,360 remember you have that big magenta 838 00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:27,510 i think you got this one down 839 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,430 1.2 meters 840 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,510 really good 841 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:35,520 that looks good 842 00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,600 about half a meter 843 00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:39,120 nice 844 00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:41,600 i don't want it to run away on me 1.6 845 00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:58,870 you're in